The Effect of New Scholarship Rules in Division I Baseball

With the NCAA Division I baseball scholarship changes coming into full effect during the 2009-10 academic year, walk-ons will take on more important roles on baseball rosters.

Each Division I institution will be limited to 27 counters (athletes receiving an athletic scholarship) among their roster limit of 35 players, with the other 8 spots being occupied by walk-ons who will receive no athletic scholarship.

Division I rosters of no more than 35 players must be established the day prior to the first contest in February.  Coaches can have more than 35 players during the Fall and January practice periods, but must be at no more than 35 before the start of the season.

Walk-ons who are on teams that have more than 35 players participating in fall practice sessions must be aware that they are at increased risk of being cut from the team.   Once a player is cut from the team, he will not be able to use the athletic facilities to work out and will have no practice opportunities with the team.

A student-athlete who is receiving an athletic scholarship must be included in the counter limit of 27, and the total roster size of 35, even if they are injured and unable to play. So a walk-on who has been performing well during practice sessions must be aware that they may be cut from the team to make room for an injured player receiving a scholarship because the injured player must be counted among the 27 and 35.

Juniors at Division I programs who choose to return to school for their senior year may be asked to return as a walk-on as their scholarship was probably already “given away” in the recruitment of an incoming freshman.  This has already been the case for a number of years, but may become more common as the opportunity for coaches to give 5% or 10% scholarships to late signees is only available in rare situations.

Some baseball programs have established their own set of “rules” for distributing scholarships.  Some let recruits know up front that their scholarship will decline each year after their freshman year, while others may inform the players after their enrollment that there will not be a baseball scholarship for their senior year if they return.

Players and parents should be asking about the effect of the new financial aid rules on their baseball scholarship so they will know well in advance.

For those who are walk-ons, especially at programs that have more than 35 players participating in Fall drills, it will be extremely important to assess your chances of making the 35-man roster that will be in effect for the season.

For those who choose to transfer, it is quite possible that a fresh start at an NCAA Division II or NAIA program may result in increased opportunities for financial aid, for playing time, and for a better opportunity to be drafted due to the increased playing time.

For more information from the parent of a college baseball player who is also an expert with over 20 years experience in NCAA rules regarding recruiting, eligibility, financial aid, and transfer issues, go to www.informedathlete.com and register for our free newsletter, or contact Rick Allen at 913-766-1235 or rick@informedathlete.com.

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167 Responses to The Effect of New Scholarship Rules in Division I Baseball

  • KCE says:

    Very informative article, many thanks!!

  • Gregory Urban says:

    Has there been any changes to scholarships at DII, DIII, or NAIA schools? If so, how much different are they from DI?

    • Rick Allen says:

      Thanks for your question. NCAA Division II has a limit of 9 baseball scholarships, and NAIA has a limit of 12. Those limits were in effect last year and remain in effect this year. Just like NCAA Division I, they can divide those scholarships up among various players as long as they do not provide more than that limit when all scholarships awarded to team members are added together.

      NCAA Division III rules do not permit the awarding of athletic scholarships. However, many Division III athletes receive good academic scholarships because they tend to be very good students academically, plus the fact that many Division III schools have substantial endowments to provide many academic scholarships at the discretion of the Admissions and/or Financial Aid office.

      Division III athletes are eligible to receive financial aid that is the same as non-athlete students of similar academic and financial background. Athletic participation or ability cannot be considered in the awarding of financial aid in Division III.

      Rick

  • Jim Landers says:

    How many baseball scholarships do D1 juco teams get?

  • Robin says:

    Can you be cut from a division 1 roster of more than 35 if you receive a partial athletic scholarship?

    • Rick Allen says:

      Yes, it is possible to be cut from a Division I roster even if you have a baseball scholarship. There’s no rule that says the coach has to keep the athlete on the team just because they have a scholarship.

      However, the school can’t take away the scholarship from the athlete except in very specific situations like quitting the team or becoming ineligible to compete. Also, even if an athlete on scholarship is cut from the team, they still have to count as one of the 35 on the spring roster because all scholarship athletes count toward the 35-man limit, regardless if they are still on the team.

  • Pete says:

    Hey Rick,

    If your a preferred walk on but do not make the 35 man roster from a DI school, can you transfer to another DI without sitting out a year.

    Thanks,

    Pete

    • Rick Allen says:

      Pete, thanks for your question. A walk-on can use an exception that will allow them to transfer from one D-I program to another and be immediately eligible. However, this only applies to athletes who were not recruited. There are four actions that will cause a walk-on to be considered a recruited walk-on. For an explanation of those four actions, refer to our new blog post titled “NCAA Rules – Definition of a Recruited Athlete.”

  • JOHN says:

    My son walked on to a division I program and was told he made the team. This team had 34 kids on the roster. The coach just called my son and another kid into his office and told them that he got a call this morning fron the athletic director that they have to reduce the roster size to 32. The season starts on Friday the 18th.Can this be done?

    • Rick Allen says:

      John, unfortunately players can be cut like that. I can think of two or three possible reasons why. It certainly would have been better if the school had made this decision before the end of the first semester. At least your son and the other player could have considered transferring to another school for the spring semester.

      Call or send me an e-mail if you want to discuss this situation.

  • Laura says:

    Rick,
    Can my son transfer from a NAIA school to a D-1 school without sitting out a year? He’s a baseball player.

    • Rick Allen says:

      Hi Laura,

      There are a few exceptions that would allow your son to transfer to a D-I school without sitting out a year, but not many. The most likely exception is if your son was a true walk-on to the NAIA school – he wasn’t recruited to play baseball there and was not provided an athletic scholarship. Other than that, he would most likely have to sit out a year upon transfer to a D-I program.

      I hope this info is helpful. Take care,

      Rick

  • Justin says:

    I have seen many division one baseball rosters specify (most notably Stanford) that they have a “Fall Roster” and a final Spring 35-Man Roster. In the fall at Stanford there were 39 Players on the team. A few of the players bios indicate that they “did not make Stanford’s Final 35-Man Roster.” However, each year these players reappear on the fall roster. Does this mean that they are cut each year? Do teams allow players to practice with them, suit up for games, and just not be allowed to play? What exactly are the rules behind this? Some players do appear to finally make the Spring Roster, as their bios before indicate they didn’t make the cut the years before. Basically what I’m asking is are you totally cut from the team or are there other alternatives in which these kids are given opportunities to practice even if they won’t be on the “official” roster in the near future.

    • Rick Allen says:

      Hi Justin, thanks for your question. Division I baseball teams can have as many players on the “Fall Roster” as they want. However, the players who are “cut” when the roster of 35 is established are no longer allowed to participate in practice activities, and can’t suit up for games. The only exception is if the university has a junior varsity squad (rare on the Division I level) the players who were cut can be on the JV squad, but there can be no crossing over from one squad to the other.

  • Dawn says:

    If my son is playing on a Div.2 baseball team can he tranfer to another div. 2 team and not have to sit for a year? Not sure what the rules are with regards to this. He was not given a scholarship but he was given ‘tuition waivers’.

    • Rick Allen says:

      Dawn, your son can transfer from one Div. II school to another Div. II school and be immediately eligible to play next year. His current school will have to agree that he can use the “one-time transfer exception” to be immediately eligible at the next school. His scholarship status isn’t a factor in this situation.

  • Samantha Liens says:

    For 2011, how come the Purdue Boilermakers show a roster of 35???

  • Samantha Liens says:

    I mean 38??

    • Rick Allen says:

      Samantha, that’s a good question! I’ll see if I can find an explanation. The answer will be posted here when I find out something.

    • Rick Allen says:

      Samantha, the NCAA rule doesn’t specifically address how many players are listed on a team’s roster. The real intent and focus of the rule is that not more than 35 players can be participating in “countable activities” once the season starts. Countable activities include games, practice, required weight training, required team meetings, etc. So, the key is that the additional three players who are on Purdue’s roster (whichever ones they are) should not be taking part in countable activities since the season started in February.

  • Larry says:

    My son, a baseball player, hurt himself his senior high school season, but accepted an NAIA baseball scholarship. He recovered and had a monster freshman season at NAIA. Can he transfer next year to a JUCO school, then the following year transfer again – this time to a D1 school without sitting out a season? – Thanks!

    • Rick Allen says:

      Yes, your son can do that, Larry. He just needs to make sure that he graduates from the junior college and has the necessary hours and GPA for transfer.

  • Jay says:

    Rick, my son is a rising Junior in HS. He was/is the workhorse for his Varsity team. He pitched 60 innings last season as a Sophmore, 15 more than the next highest, and only pitched against the best teams we faced. Still, he survived the season with a team low (over 10 innings pitched) 3.25 era, 40 K’s and only 11 walks. A rising Senior on his team was given the last All-District honor on the team, over my son, and the reason given was he “needed it” to get some notice from college coaches. My question is will Honors such as All-this and All-that hurt my son if he were never to get any? This is our first rodeo and we don’t really know what Colleges are looking at outside of the obvious. Thanks!!!

    • Rick Allen says:

      Hi Jay,

      Honors such as All-Conference or All-District don’t mean much to college coaches. That’s because players in one conference or district may be playing at a lower (or higher) skill level than players in another conference or district – so comparing one All-Conference player to one in another conference can be like comparing apples to oranges.

      Since you mentioned that you don’t know what colleges are looking for outside of the obvious, you’ve given me the perfect opportunity to promote new material that we’ll be adding to our website soon. One of the improvements coming to our website will be the ability to download transcripts from some of our past webinars for a nominal fee. Jay, one that should interest you based on your comment is “Recruiting Through the Eyes of a Coach – an interview with Josh Holliday, assistant baseball coach at Vanderbilt University.”

      Available transcripts, among others, will include “What You Should Know about the National Letter of Intent” and “What You Should Know about Transfers.” Be sure to watch for these and other improvements coming to our website soon.

      Rick

  • Steve says:

    Rick how many roster spots are there at divison II baseball schools?

    • Rick Allen says:

      Hi Steve,

      There is no specific roster size limit in NCAA Division II baseball like there is in Division I. Each school can determine the size of their roster. Some Division II schools use their athletic teams to help drive up enrollment numbers and encourage coaches to take as many players as possible. You may want to check websites for various schools to review the roster sizes from the past couple of years.

      Rick

  • Will says:

    Hi Rick,

    At a NCAA Division II school, if a baseball student-atlete who has been awarded an athletic scholarship and is academically ineligible or has been cut or quits the team before the first countable intercollegiate competitive event and before the final squad list has been submitted, does the student-athlete have to be counted as a participant on the traditional championship season roster? Thanks.

    Will

    • Rick Allen says:

      Hi Will,

      This sounds more like a playing rules issue than an issue of eligibility or financial aid. As you may know, the student-athlete would need to be reflected on the NCAA squad list with a notation of their change of status and when it changed. However, they shouldn’t need to be listed on the roster for the traditional season because they’re no longer a member of the team. Division II doesn’t have the same rule as Division I baseball (which requires an athlete to be counted on the 35-man roster if they had an athletic scholarship, even if they’re no longer part of the team).

      Rick

  • Paul says:

    Rick:
    Regarding a walk-on D1 player’s eligibility for the MLB draft: Does a recruited walk-on still have to wait 3 years to be eligible for the MLB draft just like a NLI scholarship player at D1? Or, since he did not sign an NLI, can he enter the draft after his Freshman season?

    Paul

    • Rick Allen says:

      Hi Paul,

      It doesn’t matter whether the player is a Division I walk-on or a scholarship player. Either way, the player would have to wait three years to be eligible for the draft. As I’m sure you know, the exceptions to that would be; 1) he could be drafted after his sophomore year depending upon his date of birth; or 2) he could transfer from the Division I to a JUCO and be drafted from there without waiting three years.

      Rick

  • Ricky Grubs says:

    Hi Rick,

    My son is a incoming Freshman at a D-1 program. He signed a letter of intent in the early signing period, but only received an academic scholarship and no athletic scholarship. Is he at risk of not making the final roster?

    Thanks,

    Rick

    • Rick Allen says:

      Hi Rick,

      Yes, I believe he is at risk of not making the final roster. Are you sure he signed a National Letter of Intent last Fall? A National Letter is not supposed to be issued to a prospect unless it is accompanied by an athletic scholarship agreement. For more info, you may want to check out our transcript “What You Should Know about the National Letter of Intent.” You can find it under the “Store” tab.

      Rick

      • Ricky Grubs says:

        he signed a letter, is there anyway he could have signed another letter of intent like just one from the school and not a national letter?

        • Rick Allen says:

          Hi Rick,

          It is possible that he could have signed a financial aid agreement without signing a National Letter of Intent. You may want to doublecheck to see exactly what he signed to determine what he is committed to, if anything.

          Rick

  • joe says:

    my son was not able to try out as a walk on at his college baseball team because he had a olecranon fracture. they had to put a screw to get it back together.they operation in fall when tryouts started.the next year he went to a jr. college and try to walk on and didnt make it.the next two years he made and every game.this year he signed wiht a division2 team.does he get 2 more years to play college baseball.

    • Rick Allen says:

      Hi Joe,

      It will be best if we talk directly to be sure I clearly understand your son’s timeline. I’ll follow up with a private e-mail to you regarding your questions.

      Rick

  • joe says:

    as a sr. in high school my son was pitching in a game when his arm started hurting. the next day we brought him to the hospital.they took a xray and said it was growing pains.his growth plates were not fused together.that was march3 2007.so he play the rest of the year at shortstop in pain.he was not recruit at all because of a weak arm, it was his sr year and he loves the game .that why he kept playing.that summer he play summer ball and the got worst.in aug.when baseball was over we brought him to a orthopedic surgereon.he told us to get x rays from hospital and bring it to him.when he saw the x ray he could not believe how my son play.his arm was broken olecranon fracture non union.the hospital read the xray wrong.so in sept.21 he had surgery.he could not walk on to play baseballhis 1st. year he was just a student.2008 baseball season was not his fault.in the fall he went to a jr. college and to walk on his arm was not ready topitch or practice at the level. he still had pain on long toss.he did not make the team.the coach told him to get stronger and try next year.so that 2 years no baseball.the fall of 2009 he tried again and was named starting ss. he play 58 games and batted over 250 times the most on the team. He beatout all of the returning players of the year before, that was the 2010 season. The 2011 season he played 57 games with no pain in his arm, and for the first time four-year colleges started recruiting him. He signed with a college team. Does he get two more years to play baseball at the division 3 school? The first 2 years of college were out of control. We have the paperwork from his operation. Sorry for so much detail, just hoping to get that extra year. Thank you.

    • Rick Allen says:

      Joe,

      You’ve obviously provided a lot of detail here. This is more appropriate for a private consultation. I’ll follow up with a direct e-mail to you regarding your questions.

      Rick

  • John says:

    Is there a roster cap for NAIA schools?

  • scott says:

    my son is a walk-on at a division 1 school. just wondering, if one of the scholarship players becomes academically ineligible for the spring semester does this open up a spot for a walk-on

    • Rick Allen says:

      Hi Scott,

      A baseball player who receives an athletic scholarship at any point during the year must be counted as one of the 35-man roster slots, even if he is no longer a member of the team. So this would not open up a spot for a walk-on, unless the team was already operating with a roster of fewer than 35 players.

      Rick

  • JoAnn says:

    Good morning Mr. Allen. My nephew has a full atheletic scholarship to a Division I school. He was recruited by the Head Coach and the Asst Coach but when he started school in August the Head Coach was replaced. Since day 1 the Head coach has been nothing but negative and riding on him. At the first team meeting he announced that my nephew was going to be the last full Athletic scholarship because with his full ride he could have gotten 2 players. He also says to him that he doesn’t have what it takes, he leaves him behind when they go to play other schools, he sits him out during practice and continues to antagonize him and taunt him with stupid comments -waiting for my nephew to react negatively so that he can use this against him. He tells him he is not hungry and that he is out of shape. He keeps up with everyone else and doesn’t lag behind and actually stays ahead of some of the other players. Just yesterday he called him into his office and told him he was cut from the team. He told him he has great technique and talent but was not mentally ready because he is homesick (which he has never shown) and that he will try to find him another school for next semester because he “likes him”. Should we bring this to the Athletic Director’s attention. It seems to us like he wants my nephew to leave so that he can get more players with his scholarship (this was said by another coach to him). What can we do and what should he do? Stay at the school for 2 semesters and then leave or is there another option? Thanks in advance.

    • Rick Allen says:

      Hi JoAnn,

      I recommend that you call or e-mail me directly using the contact info on the website so we can discuss this. I’ve been working with a family who went through almost the exact same thing in a different sport. You’ll want the proper advice to prevent the school from taking away his baseball scholarship.

      I look forward to talking with you soon.

      Rick

      • Dean says:

        Hi Mr. Allen!
        My son is a D1 Freshman and went through a very similar thing this year and I would love your advice. The harder he worked and the better he did, the more he was called an idiot and as he puts it “Played scared all the time” He has a 50% scholarship and has been told it is being removed next year. Whenever my son did really well like when he drove in the only 3 runs in one game during his very seldom opportunities he was grouped with the rest of the freshman and told they all were horrible and might get cut. When signing, one major factor why we signed was the coach told us we had his word that my son would have all 4 years scholarship but he obviously lied in that verbal agreement!

        • Rick Allen says:

          Hi Dean,

          Has your son had his year-end exit meeting with the coach yet? Has the team’s season ended, or are they still alive in the postseason? The school has until July 1 to inform any scholarship athlete whether their scholarship will be renewed for the following year. Your son probably doesn’t want to wait that long to find out about his scholarship, so he may need to initiate the conversation with the coach.

          I’ll follow up with a private e-mail to you.

          Rick

  • Andrew says:

    Mr. Allen,

    My son has a baseball scholarship at a Junior college and is a freshman, the fall roster has 35 players and the coach has been sitting him and says his arm is not strong enough. He is a hard worker and very talented, but the coach seems to like other walk on players ahead of him. There will be cuts, can they cut him and keep a walk on, also, should I contact the athletic director about my concerns?

    • Rick Allen says:

      Hi Andrew,

      The baseball coach can cut your son from the team, but he can’t take away the baseball scholarship unless your son quits the team, becomes ineligible, or has a misconduct issue. In some ways, he may actually be doing your son a favor by not playing him, allowing him to use this as a redshirt year to work on getting stronger.

      Do not contact the athletic director – at least not yet. If your son has not had a talk with the coach, I encourage him to do so. He should ask the coach what role he sees for him this year and next, and what he can work on to improve his chances of getting on the field. For example, does the coach see him as a better fit at a different position where a strong arm is not as important, like second base?

      Good luck to your son,

      Rick

      • Andrew says:

        Rick,

        If he cuts him or redshirts him, does he still count as a roster spot, in other words, will he have 1 less spot to work with? Is this the issue why coach’s don’t cut scholarship athletes? Also, strengh and speed is not the issue in this case, it seems to be his weakness is his height and the coach favors taller players with very limited skills from what I have seen so far.

        • Rick Allen says:

          Andrew,

          NCAA Division I is the only level that has baseball roster limits on a national basis. Schools outside of NCAA Division I may have their own imposed roster limits based on budget, gender equity, or some other reason, but there is no NJCAA rule regarding roster size – that would be decided by each individual school.

          Rick

  • gezlyn garcia says:

    My son who is a senior got offered to a div II school. He was offered 11,000 for acadmeics and 2,000 for baseball. Does it matter that he has less in baseball? Also he is supposed to sing the NLI but nov 16 or he will loose it. No one has offered him either. should he take the sure thing or wait for the last recruiting and hope he gets a deal to a div 1 school? he has been exposed to many showcases but has no other offers. My husband thinks he should continue to improve then wait until later.

    • Rick Allen says:

      Hi Ms. Garcia,

      Your son’s decision has to be one that he’s comfortable with (as well as you and your husband, since you’ll be paying for part of his education). I can’t tell you whether he should take the “sure thing” or wait until the April signing period. However, I can list some things to consider as you weigh this decision.

      1. Would he be happy at this school if he became hurt and couldn’t play anymore? $11,000 for academics is a substantial scholarship offer, even if he didn’t have the athletic aid.
      2. How close to home is the school? Does his personality indicate to you that he may become homesick.
      3. How hard has this Div. II school been recruiting your son? Have they been following him for quite a while?
      4. Does your son have a lot of growing left to do – adding height and weight to perhaps become more attractive to Div. I schools? Or does it appear that he may have already reached his physical “peak?”

      Good luck to you and your son, and Congratulations on his offer!

      Rick

  • Amelia says:

    I was wondering.. Can a coach red shirt your son in baseball even if he didn’t make the 35 team roster?

    • Rick Allen says:

      Hi Amelia,

      If your son didn’t make the 35-man roster and is still enrolled at the school for the spring semester, then he is being redshirted. The term redshirt simply means that an athlete has not used a season of eligibility. If your son’s not on the 35-man roster, then he won’t be using a season of eligibility, and is therefore redshirted.

      The term redshirt is not normally used when a player is cut from the squad or doesn’t make the roster, it’s more commonly used for players that are on the team and practice with the team, but don’t play in any games during a particular season. The end result is the same, however – a season of eligibility has not been used.

      Rick

  • sara says:

    My son is a freshman at a NJCAA school on scholarship and is on the roster this season, would be the 2nd player for his position however he has still not played and they have now used another player as the second choice. He has talked to the coaches they dismiss him and tell him he is on the roster but will not advise how he needs to improve himeself to play, he is wondering if he is wasting his time and our money and should of red-shirted, If he is on the roster but does not get game time does this still count as a playing year ?

    • Rick Allen says:

      Hi Sara,

      If he does not play against outside competition this year – including back during the Fall – then this would count as a redshirt year and he would still have four years of eligibility remaining. Under NCAA rules (assuming that he would like to transfer to an NCAA program in the future), any amount of competition against an outside team, even if it is for one at bat or one defensive inning, will count as a season of eligibility used.

      Rick

  • Kirk says:

    My son is currently in his second year at a JUCO. He is in the process of receiving offers from a couple of D1 programs for his Junior year. The coaches that are talking to him are mentioning percentages…and not money amounts. One is offering a 40% scholarship, which his JUCO coach says is a great offer for a corner outfielder in D1. My question is: When they are speaking of a %…are they referring to a percentage of the total tuition, room and board, books, fees, etc….OR just the tuition? OR does this vary from school to school. Did not know..and of course we are going to ask the exact $ amount when we begin to review offers. The signing period begins April 1? Is that correct? Thanks so much

    • Rick Allen says:

      Hi Kirk,

      First of all, congratulations to your son on this level of interest! I agree with his JUCO coach – 40% is a good offer. In most cases (but not all, because some coaches will “spin”), the offer is referring to a percentage of the value of a full scholarship. As you noted, a full scholarship is tuition, required fees, room, board, and books. Also, be sure to ask whether the scholarship is all athletic scholarship, or if it’s a combination of athletic and academic scholarship. The combination scholarships are more common in Div. II than Div. I, but ask to make sure you have the accurate info.

      The NLI signing period actually begins April 11. Your son can’t sign the documents prior to 7 AM on that day.

      Good luck!

      Rick

  • martha says:

    my son is currently a freshman playing on a jv squad of a div III school. Does this count as one of his years of eligibility? and how would it affect his eligibility if he transfered to a Div II in the fall?
    thanks

    • Rick Allen says:

      Hi Martha,

      Yes, playing on a JV squad at a Div. III school does count as a year of eligibility used. If he transfers to a Div. II program this Fall, he will have 3 years of eligibility remaining.

      Rick

  • Pete says:

    Rick,
    My son is a freshman on a D1 scholarship. In the fall of 2011 in the second official practice he was injured and had surgery and will be medically red shirted this year. Meanwhile his team is doing horrible and the coach has threatened to re-evaluate all the scholarships for the players. he specifically told my son that he was not earning his scholarship which is obvious because he cannot play this year. My son is concerned about his and the teams future. The coaches job is apparently being re-evaluated by the administration and this whole situation is very unstable. Can you tell me what my son’s options would be at this point? It seems like having to wait till July to find out if my son’s scholarship will be renewed, is wasting a lot of time. If it is not renewed can he transfer to another D1 school and play next year or does he have to sit out a year? He has already missed this entire year and would hate to loose another. His first choice would be to try and play next year at another D1 program otherwise possible go the JUCO route. We just are not sure if playing at another D1 school is possible or does he have to sit out another year if he goes the D1 route?
    Thanks!

    • Rick Allen says:

      Hi Pete,

      As a Div. I baseball athlete on scholarship, your son will be required to serve a year in residency if he transfers to another Div. I program next Fall. Barring the granting of a waiver by the NCAA (which is rare), this will be the case regardless of whether his scholarship is renewed or whether his coach is retained for next year. If your son is willing to consider transferring to a quality Div. II program, he can transfer and be immediately eligible next season.

      Your son can go ahead and request permission from his coach to start speaking with other schools about the possibility of a transfer if he wishes to do so. I usually recommend waiting until closer to the end of the season, but since your son’s not playing anyway, it’s not like this action will hurt his playing time.

      Good luck to your son!

      Rick

  • Les says:

    My son recently was persued by the head coach and assistant coach of a jr. College after one of his games. They both said they would like him to attend their jr college and play for them. They said they would send him an offer and he has not heard from them. He talked to the assistant coach and he said they are waiting on the AD to sign the papers…how long does that usually take?

    Thanks!

    • Rick Allen says:

      Hi Les,

      The delay in the JUCO AD signing the papers that the assistant coach is talking about could be due to a number of items.

      1. The AD may also be the coach of another sport that is a higher priority for him right now.
      2. The AD could be examining the baseball budget to make sure the coach has enough funds to provide the scholarship.
      3. There might be another person that has to sign the forms after the AD, such as the Director of Financial Aid, and the asst. coach may have just said they are waiting on the AD.
      4. The AD may have other duties such as teaching class, or supervising the campus rec and/or PE department.

      Or, frankly, the head coach may be stalling to see if they see a prospect that they think is better. I hope that’s not the case for your son’s sake, but it happens alot. Encourage your son to keep his options open, and keep marketing himself through e-mails to coaches, sending video clips, and letting coaches know when his upcoming games are and where he will be playing.

      Good luck to your son!

      Rick

  • Kyle brown says:

    Here’s the situation. My son played juco ball for two years and had two outstanding years. He was recruited heavily by a team and offered a very high scholarship for DII ball. When he got there the head coach quit therefore bringing in a new head coach at semester. My son was starting right field every game coming in but once this new coach got there and saw the amount of money my son had he decided that he wanted the money to recruit more guys than my son and therefore basically tried to make him quit. He have him only 20ABs by halfway through the season and that’s when we had had enough. He quit. My question about all this is if he would have wasted a year of his eligibility from this or would he still have two years since he only had 20ABs?

    • Rick Allen says:

      Kyle,

      Unless your son had an injury or something beyond the control of he or the coach that restricted his ability to play, then he has used a season of eligibility and has one remaining.

      Rick

  • Renee says:

    Rick,

    My son just finished his second year at a D1 school on a 70% baseball scholarship. He got hurt this year and did not play in any games. He was is rehab most of the season. He just had his annually meeting with the head coach and they decided to cut him from the team for the remaining two years. Not because of injuries but because of him choosing not to live with the team but he chose to live at another location off campus. All the reason’s given to him why he was cut had nothing to do with his athletic ability.
    Can they take his scholarship money away for the next two years.

    • Rick Allen says:

      Renee,

      The school does have the right to not renew your son’s scholarship for next year. He should be given that notice in writing, and it must include information of what your son needs to do to appeal that decision, if he chooses to do so. I suggest that he ask the compliance staff at the school for a description of the appeal process, so that he can at least start thinking about it. Contact me directly at rick@informedathlete.com if you have additional questions.

      Rick

  • Susan says:

    Hello Rick,

    My son attends a DII school, which will be DI beginning this fall 2012. He will be a Senior.. He was a Junior transfer this year. Originally he was offered a 33% scholarship. Shortly before school began in the fall of 2011, his coached asked him to agree to zero scholarship junior year and a 100% scholarship his senior year (tuition, room & board & books). We asked the agreement to be in the form of a signed document outlinning the specifics. We did receive the signed agreement from his coach so we agreed to it. Well, not long into his junior year he injured his back, spent the year mainly in physical therapy and did not play in any games. He is much better and will be able to play on a summer team. So, earlier this week he had his exit meeting, the coach explained that since he was unable to contribute this year he won’t be on next years team. His coach said he still has to honor the scholarship, but he would not be on the team.
    I know that DI rules state basically if a student receives athletic money they have to be included on the 35 man roster. But I assume since this school is going DI this fall there may be some transition rules in place…?
    Also, I realize that even if he is on the roster, he won’t play.
    Secondly, his coach said he might want to consider transferring to another school so he can play. But it’s his senior year and expected to graduate in May 2013. Do athletes have to finish their last two years of college at the same University? If he transfers would he have to spend another 2 years in school?
    Thank you for any insight you can provide. He needs to let his coach know soon if he plans on returning in the fall & use the scholarship, and we are all reeling.

    Thank you very much

  • Josh says:

    Hi Rick,

    My son just finished his Freshman year at a D1 school. The coaches want to offer him the same exact scholarship his Sophomore year. Does he have the right to ask for more? If so, how much more?

    • Rick Allen says:

      Hi Josh,

      As you can see, I’ve edited your question so as not to identify your son. I tried to send you a private e-mail, but it bounced back as undeliverable. If you’d like to discuss your question in more detail, contact me directly at rick@informedathlete.com.

      The simple answer to your question is, Yes, your son has every right to ask for a larger scholarship. As far as how much more, it is fairly common for impact players at his position to get 50%, but it is also fairly common for coaches to not increase a scholarship once the player is on campus.

      Congrats to your son on his great freshman season, and best wishes for continued success!

      Rick

  • Ron Brown says:

    My son is going to a D1 school as a freashmen and was awarded a scholarship but just missed the 3.5 GPA graduating high school. This has kept him from stacking academic scholarship money from test scores which we needed to happen in choosing this expensive school.1) What are the possibilities of the coach upping the baseball money agreed to in the letter of intent rather than loosing that money if we choose not to go.2) After starting school since scholarships are renewed every year are there chances to improve on baseball as well as academic awards each year. 3)If he doesn’t go can he still de-commit and go to another D1 or can he go either way to a D2 school and not sit out.
    What a mess lots of frustration and trying to salvage something before school starts.
    Thanks for any help,
    Ron

    • Rick Allen says:

      Ron, in response to your questions:

      1) I believe the chances of that happening are not good. He has probably already awarded scholarships at or near his maximum level.
      2) It is possible to have both baseball and academic scholarships increase in following years. It is most likely less than a 50% chance that the baseball money will increase. An academic increase will depend upon how well your son does, and what the school offers to continuing students.
      3) This would probably be best discussed in a phone consultation. Contact me directly at rick@informedathlete.com if you want to discuss his options.

      Rick

  • Dimitri says:

    Hi is there a red shirt limit for Division 2 baseball?

    • Rick Allen says:

      Hi Dimitri,

      Not sure what you mean, but let me try to answer it this way. Any amount of competition you participate in against “outside competition” counts as a year of eligibility used. You have four years of eligibility, and in NCAA Div. II, you have 10 semesters of full-time enrollment in which to use those four years. So you could redshirt one year, and still have four years eligibility available to you.

      Rick

  • David Brown says:

    How long do you have to play Div.II baseball to be eligible for Major League draft?

  • john says:

    I red shirted my true freshman year then played this past year as a red shirt freshman this coming year i will be a sophmore on the roster but I will have been with the team for 3 seasons and accademically will be finishing my junior year…I will not turn 21 till June 19 am i eligible for the 2013 draft?

  • ron says:

    Rick, my son transferred from a jc after his 2 years to a div 1 and sat out a year, wanted to gauge his work load. deans list first year, presidents list second year at jc near home. he tried out for the baseball team this year as a walk-on. he intended to go to the pitching session and then the hitting session the following day. (he is more hitter than pitcher) he was the last kid to throw, of 68 that showed up. the pitching coach stuck around when he saw him warming up in the outfield. 6’4″ 192 (he later told my son this). my son threw a couple of different pitches that all worked and hit 89-90 fastball. the coach approached him and he was to meet with the head coach the next day. the coaches informed him not to go to the hitting tryouts because he had enough outfielders and he WAS going to be a pitcher anyway. he has tried to call the coach many times to start fall practice, but the student adviser said he cannot until he is on the roster. sounds like he may have got cut by a very unprofessional coach, understood, but question is, didn’t he have the same right the others had to try out at the hitting session? are coaches allowed to do this as an excuse for this type of discrimination of NCAA rules that say all get a fair chance on an even playing field?

    • Rick Allen says:

      Ron,

      While the coach may not have treated your son fairly, there is no rule that he had to allow your son to participate in the hitting session. Has your son tried to contact the head coach, or the pitching coach? I suggest that he contact the pitching coach. At the least, if this school doesn’t have room for him on the team, the pitching coach may be able to refer him to another school if he’s willing to transfer elsewhere to play ball.

      Rick

  • Chase says:

    Does signing a summer contract with a collegiate summer baseball league, while in attendance at a Div.1 institution having any affect in whether or not you are considered a recruited student-athlete. Thus affecting my immediate eligibility upon transfer to another Div.1 institution. Thanks

    • Rick Allen says:

      Chase,

      That has no impact or whether you are considered “recruited.” You may want to review the blog here on the website titled “NCAA Rules: Definition of a Recruited Athlete.”

      Rick

  • John says:

    HS senior Son is signing a 40% athletic nli with another 1-2 k guaranteed by school for 4 years for academics at a D1 school.

    He is thinking about engineering as a degree which is a 5-year commitment.

    School tells us they rarely redshirt. I asked if he is kept on scholarship for first four years and uses up eligibility if he is on his own to pay for last year.

    Coach says “No we will cover his athletic aid the last year to finish his degree in that field,”

    Now that he said it verbally to me is that a binding agreement or can they change there mind?

    They have also stated twice that they will honor all four years and will never reduce pct. only increase it.

    Please write back.

    • Rick Allen says:

      Hi John,

      It is quite common for colleges to provide athletes who are in their 5th year of school and have no athletic eligibility remaining, with a scholarship at the same level they had previously received in order to complete their degree. The reason it is quite common is because the scholarship doesn’t count against the team’s scholarship limit of 11.7 scholarships since the athlete has no eligibility remaining.

      The coach’s verbal statement does not make that a binding agreement, he can change his mind. Also, although he has stated that they will honor all four years and will never reduce the scholarship, they don’t have to stick to that unless you are offered a multi-year agreement (recently approved for Div. I school to provide to prospects, but rarely used so far). Most scholarships are year-to-year, and the school has until July 1 to inform the athlete whether it will be renewed at the same value for the upcoming year.

      Rick

  • Mark says:

    Rick,

    My son is on a substantial scholarship at a D1 school. He was highly recruited out of high school and was drafted in the MLB draft. He completed his freshmen year, pitched a fair amount but had some control problems. a new coach was hired. He pitched better this fall of his sophomore year, but just received word that he would not be on the roster this spring, but he would receive his scholarship. The school as an appeals process where we believe we have a fair chance of being successful, as he is in good academic standing and has had not team or off-field issues. My question is does he use a year of eligibility if he accepts the scholarship but isn’t on the teams roster?

    Thanks, Mark

    • Rick Allen says:

      Hi Mark,

      If he didn’t pitch against any outside teams this Fall (and obviously won’t be competing for the school this spring), he does not use a year of eligibility by accepting the scholarship and can treat this as a redshirt year (if he chooses to stay at the school and do that).

      I am curious what you plan to appeal if he’s been told that he’ll be able to keep his scholarship. I’m not aware of any appeal process that would require the coach to keep him on the team.

      Rick

  • Nick says:

    Rick,
    If a D1 scholarship player quits the D1 school to transfer to a JUCO during the fall semester and therefore does not come back in the spring to the D1 school does he still have to be counted towards the 27 man scholarship roster limit at the D1 school that he left?

  • Nick says:

    Rick,
    Are there any circumstances where a non-playing scholarship athlete in a D1 school does not get counted towards the 27 man roster, such as leaving school due to academics or legal proceedings, etc. I recognize this is somewhat of a general question, however, I am trying to understand when a scholarship athlete no longer enjoys the priviledge of the scholarship due to issues that were in their control.
    thanks, I am enjoying the reading and learning about all the NCAA nuances.

  • Beau Moore says:

    So I was a walk on at my division I college and played the fall with the team. For the fall there was 38 players and obviously the roster needed to be trimmed down to 35, meaning I unfortunately got cut. Recently one of the players for the spring roster got deemed ineligible due to grades and is transferring out leaving the roster at 34. Do I have a chance to be on the team in the spring?

    • Rick Allen says:

      Hi Beau,

      It will depend upon whether that athlete was on a baseball scholarship. If he was, the coach won’t be able to fill that roster spot because he will still have to count that athlete as part of the 35-man roster.

      Rick

  • Brandon says:

    I was just offered a guaranteed roster spot for a D2 JV team. I need to call the coach to ask specific questions. Are you familiar with JV teams and if there is scholarship money for players and/or how JV teams are used in the recruiting process? Do you think Juco would be a better opportunity or do you think playing JV for a college that you are really interested in being on their Varsity roster would be a wiser choice?

    • Rick Allen says:

      Hi Brandon,

      Unless the coach who offered you that spot is an ethical person with a track record of doing what he says he will do, there’s no such thing as a “guaranteed” roster spot. There is rarely scholarship money available for JV players unless it is an academic scholarship. You would be better served going the JUCO route.

      Rick

  • Cautious Dad says:

    Rick,
    Is this a deal too good to be true?
    I have always be of the understanding that a “Full Ride” in DI baseball is unheard of. Well, my son, a 6’5″ junior pitcher was offered a scholarship to a DI school, his offer was as such: 100% Books, 100% tuition, 100% applicable fees, and since he would be living at home, they rolled the housing costs into a stipend of $1600/semester on a debit card. I have looked up and down, inside and out, and it sounds great, this is where he has always wanted to go, but I feel like I am being sold a used car. I really like these guys and always have, and heard nothing bad about them to speak of. Obviously this “offer” is good on paper, but surely there has to be something I am missing.

    • Rick Allen says:

      Hi Dad,

      Congrats to your son on that offer! I agree with your caution as the offer sounds too good to be true, but the important thing is that it would mean very little money coming out of your own pocket for your son’s education.

      Is your son a high academic achiever? If so, it’s possible that part of this offer is an academic scholarship based on a high test score, GPA, or class rank. If that is the case, and depending upon your son’s academic credentials, the academic portion would not be countable toward the baseball team’s scholarship limit, so would be a benefit to your son without cutting into the 11.7 scholarships that Div. I baseball has available. Contact me directly at rick@informedathlete.com if you desire more detailed info on this situation.

      Rick

  • John says:

    Rick–just discovered this site and appreciate your very knowledgeable answers. How does a players projectablity (ie likelihood of being drafted) affect recruiting efforts by college coaches? My son is a 6’5 rhp who is ranked highly on perfectgame and we keep hearing from coaches about his projectablity..we are receiving lots of interest by coaches who want us to come for unofficial visits and are just getting started on them. Does a coach consider the possiblity of losing a commited player to the draft and therefore trying to replace him on short notice?

    • Rick Allen says:

      Hi John,

      The answer to your question will vary frome one head coach to the next. There will be some coaches that do shy away from a player such as your son because they fear losing him to the draft, while other head coaches won’t think twice about it, and are confident enough in their staff and their program that they are going to aggressively recruit your son.

      By the way, since you’re new to our website, you may want to check out a couple of our downloadable transcripts in our “Store” – one with a pro scout about what they look for in players, and another with a college coach on what he looks for in a prospect.

      Rick

  • Mike says:

    Rick, Thank you for a very informative website! What is ruling on the waving of out of state tuition by a school…Is this consider a baseball scholarship or academic?

    • Rick Allen says:

      Hi Mike,

      Frankly, I have seen it considered both ways. In most situations, it should be considered a baseball scholarship if baseball is the reason for receiving the tuition waiver. If the tuition was waived because of a reciprocal agreement between neighboring states, as an example, that should not be considered as a baseball scholarship as it would be available to athletes and non-athletes alike.

      Rick

  • Matthew says:

    Rick
    My son was giving a scholarship for a D1 Juco this past January 2013. He is Freshmen. He has 1 AB and actual played 3 games, used him to pitch in mop up duty for 2 games. My question is can he still be redshirted, if not how does this work because he would still be freshmen in class come fall 2013. Does he become a sophomore once Spring 2014 starts. Did he lose his eligibility?
    Thanks

    • Rick Allen says:

      Matthew,

      If/when your son transfers to an NCAA school, this will count as a season of eligibility used. It’s too late to be able to count this as a redshirt year. He will have 3 seasons remaining.

      Rick

  • Steve says:

    Rick, my son played 2 years of juco baseball and now is looking to transfer to a 4 year school to finish his education. He still wants to play baseball. Under the rules, are juco transfers allowed to pay their own way to work out for D1 coaches on campuses? He wants to try to schedule campus visits to see several schools and work out for the coaches while there if possible. Is that allowed? Thanks!

  • concerned parent says:

    Rick, my son was a Juco medical redshirt as a freshman. He then played two years of Juco Baseball. He signed and played for a DI school his junior year. Last week he was told there was no scholarship available for his senior year nor could he walk on. He was given a release to talk with any school. Based on the 5 to play 4 rule he only has one year of eligibility left. However, he has to sit out a year if he goes DI again. Hence forced to play DII. Based on this information have you ever seen or is it possible to get an approval from the NCAA to play his senior season at a DI school.

    • Rick Allen says:

      Parent,

      The odds for an approved waiver from the NCAA to be eligible at another Div. I school are slim unless you can show that the transfer is due to extenuating circumstances beyond the control of the athlete or the coach. Examples might be if there was a very serious illness in the family and the athlete moved closer to home to help provide care, or if there was a serious financial hardship (one or both parents lost their jobs) and the athlete moved to a school that was much less expensive. Even in these cases, it may be necessary to show why the Div. I school is the school of choice if there is a Div. II school in the same geographic area.

      Rick

  • Joey says:

    I was drafted (mlb) out of HS but chose to attend a D1 school. I played my freshman year but was granted a medical redshirt my Sophomore year due to injury. Will I be eligible for the draft after playing my Junior (Red Shirt Sophomore season) season? Everything I read says I am eligible after my Junior year but I don’t know if that means my Junior year of college or after my Junior year of baseball. I will not be 21 until a month after the draft.

  • Lauren says:

    Hi Rick,

    If a D1 school has a player that leaves the team his Sr year because he was drafted into the MLB, can that NCAA scholarship money which the player was recieving this year(about 75%)go back to the team to be given to other players or does the team lose the money?
    Lauren

    • Rick Allen says:

      Lauren,

      That money can be given to other players on the team, or to new incoming players, as determined at the sole discretion of the coaching staff.

      Rick

  • Mary says:

    Hi Rick,
    My son is a phenomenal baseball player who was injured throughout his sophomore season and summer. He missed a lot of showcases. His junior year he played great and made 1st team all-section catching. He’s played summer ball but has yet to receive any offers. He was also moved to first base. We are thinking of making a highlight tape this last month and recording his fallball.
    Is there any chance he still will get offers? Can baseball players get scholarships through their senior year?

    Thanks,
    Mary

    • Rick Allen says:

      Mary,

      You should definitely make a highlight tape and send it out to coaches, and possibly post it to a recruiting video website (check them out because there is great variation in quality and cost). There is plenty of time for him to still get offers. For example, junior colleges are not permitted to sign baseball prospects to letters of intent until Jan. 15 of the prospect’s senior year of HS.

      Rick

  • Austin says:

    Dear Rick…I am a 6’3″ bat left/throws left first baseman,outfielder, and pitcher. I sent out my website/video/newspaper clippings…and now I have an inbox with 24 very interested Div 3 school, 6 Div. 2 schools and 4 Div. 1 schools (although more have sent form letters back to me inviting me to their camps…I did not include these in my numbers). I feel like I 100% want to play Div. 1…but my parents want me to consider D2-3 schools too, as they feel I may miss out on a lot college has to offer playing D1, when every minute of my free time is used up. Cost is also a huge factor, as I am from a big family. I know Div. 3 won’t give me athletic money, and I don’t know if they will give me enough academic money…I have a 25 ACT and 3.2 gpa.
    Here are my questions
    1. Is Div 1 a much bigger time commitment?
    2. Can I get both athletic money and academic money at div. 1 and 2 schools…and will these schools usually then be cheaper than a D3 with my grades/ACT?

    I appreciate your input…this is very overwhelming to a kid just trying to play baseball. thanks a lot.

    • Rick Allen says:

      Austin,

      1. Div. I ball is often a bigger time commitment, but that’s not true in all cases, and the difference is probably not a large one in many cases. You might find some Div. II programs that spend as much time at the field as a Div. I program.
      2. To get both athletic and academic money at Div. I and II schools, you’ll need to raise your test score and GPA, so that your academic money can be “exempt” from counting against the Div. I and II team limits.

      Rick

  • Mark says:

    My son is a sophomore D1 pitcher. He received a full academic scholarship with fees for baseball.He got very little play as a freshman as there was a first and second round draft pick playing in front of him. A new coach was hired and called all the kids and told them to look for new positions as he was bringing his own guys in. My son replied he will be there ready to play next season. Do you have any suggestions. He has skills. and a 6’4” RHP It is too late to look else where. What are his rights and exposures.

    • Rick Allen says:

      Mark,

      It is late to look elsewhere, but not impossible. If your son is in good academic standing and eligible for this upcoming year, then it would be possible for him to be immediately eligible at a Div. II school if he is open to that. Otherwise, he could consider a year at a JUCO, and then be “re-recruited” to an NCAA Div. I or II school. As a 4-2-4 going back to a Div. I school, he would have to be sure to graduate from the JUCO with his Associates Degree. He could also consider making such a move at the end of the semester after he determines how things go during Fall workouts.

      Rick

  • Chris says:

    Hey Rick,
    Is it uncommon for a 21 year old to be a first year freshman and be recruited after a successful juco career by a d2 or NAIA school at the age of 24-25?

    And if recruited, do you know if that’s too old to be staying in the dorms if on scholarship? Or would they most likely set up housing with other players?

    Thank you

  • Chris says:

    Ill be 22 when the season starts. I doubt ill be red shirted but if so. Ill will be 24 at the end of my juco career.

    And I’m not looking into the pros. I know I am way to late on that. But I was curious if position players are ever drafted at the age of 23-24 out of a juco or 25-26 out of a university?

    Thanks

  • Steve says:

    I understand that a Division 1 minimum baseball scholdrship is 25%. My question is, 25% of what? Of tuition? Of all expenses–tuition, fees , room, board, everything? To be more specific, if tuition at a given school is $8000, but total cost (tuition, room, board, books, fees) is $20,000, would the minimum baseball offer be $2000 or $5000?

    Thanks.

  • Brian says:

    My son is a Freshman at a D1 school and just finished his first fall session. He was recruited by the previous staff but there was a coaching change made this past summer. He unfortunately missed about a third of the fall practices/inter-squads due to combo of illness and a concussion. He was told by the new staff at his fall wrap-up meeting that he would almost certainly not see the field this Spring (there are 2 seniors returning at his position) and that if we wanted to play college baseball he would need to transfer since the new coaching staff is ‘trying to recruit more big-time talent to make the program into a Top 25 program’. They are basically saying to him that he is behind upperclassmen now and will be ‘jumped’ by new incoming recruits – so he is SOL and not in their plans going forward. Clearly implying that they would not be renewing his scholarship for his Soph year. This is unfortunately the cut-throat ‘business side’ of college athletics in practice. And it can chew up and spit out good kids along the way like my son – particularly in these cases with a coaching staff change. It stinks and it has been very difficult for him to digest this news as he feels he has barely had a chance to really get comfortable or make any impression. That being said, it is what it is, and he is now contemplating his path forward. What are the ramifications if he were to xfer to a new D1 school and be able to start there academically in Jan 2014 and try to walk on in the Fall 2014? Would he be eligible to play in the Spring 2015 season if he was afforded a spot on the roster based on his walk-on/tryout? Would he still retain all 4 years of his eligibility since we would not have played in any games in Spring 2014?

    • Rick Allen says:

      Brian,

      If your son transfers to another Div. I program for the Spring of 2014, he’ll be able to be eligible in the Spring of 2015. He’ll retain all four years of his eligibility as long as he hasn’t participated in any exhibitions or scrimmages this Fall against outside competition.

      Rick

  • Joe says:

    My son is a red shirt freshman pitcher at a div. 1 school. He made the team as a walk-on his freshman year was red shirted and then was cut after fall ball this year his sophomore year. if he stays at this school thru the second semester when would he be able to play if he tranfers for next year 2014-2015 year? and would he still have 4 years left ? does he need to transfer for second semester to be able to play next year? Thanks

    • Rick Allen says:

      Joe,

      Since he’s a walk-on, he would have the chance to be eligible for the 2014-15 academic year, whether he transfers at mid-year, or at the end of this year. He’ll have 3 years left on his “clock” if he transfers at the end of this year.

      Rick

  • Maria says:

    Our son, had lots of accolades in HS both fb and bb and 4.0+gpa, didn’t get recruited as we had 4 head bb coaches while he was playing and zero support Or direction from hs or club coaches..long story we did our own college outreach, son got academic scholarships to a private-just this year turned D1 univ. Son talked to bb coaches attended their camp early on did what we thought was approp to make connection, prove himself etc. Son showed up this Fall 2014 they allowed him as walk on, he worked extremely hard, gained weight,was early, stayed late, open to any position as he is very well rounded athletically, proved himself, out did scholarship new recruits, after last fall inter squad game he was cut..we are in shock ..he is more than a good kid, biochem major smart one, hard worker ..and exceptional athlete…good hard working middle class fam…oldest son…what do you recommend the next steps are for him and for us as parents . He is a yes sir kid so he didnt say much when he was cut was in shock ..should he go back and talk to coach? Ask questions on when and if? What is appropriate next steps for us as parents? When or should we speak out on his behalf? This is a great academic christian school so son will be staying. We are all crushed ..We have never felt so badly as we know this is to the core unfair..help ..we are conflicted ..we’d honestly feel the same if it weren’t our kid as we are truly parents who have never interfered in sons athletics but this time we feel compelled to say something to the coach, AD or pres of univ. about how we feel …We need help options what do we do now? Son wants to play ball for a school he loves …..we can only pray at this point that they realize they made a terrible decision cutting him and call him back …should he stick around or get the clue and move on? Thanks ..God bless …

  • Carolyn says:

    Does a player have to have a 3.5 gpa to get An athletic scholarship.

    • Rick Allen says:

      Carolyn,

      An athlete’s athletic ability, and the decision of a college coach as to how important the athlete can be to his or her team, is much more important than the GPA in the opportunity to be offered an athletic scholarship.

      Rick

  • Chris says:

    Hey Rick, my names Chris I’m 20 Junior academic. Sophmore athletic. and I go to a Div. I school for baseball. Their roster was full when I came here to walk on this year so I went to their club team and lead the nation in hitting with .581BA 18Hits and 10Runs this fall. Now after contacting 180 different collegiate summer league teams and telling them my long story I’ve gotten one in the New York Collegiate Baseball League (NYCBL) who is willing to offer me a full time spot. I spoke to UWM’s coach and he said their roster is still full at 35. My question is how can I take this opportunity to play in this summer league with my situation on the club team. Or if there’s some type of inactive thing i can do or any League out there that will make this work for me. Thank You

    “Were not competing against each other, we’re competing against ourselves”

  • Eliot says:

    Rick,
    I am currently playing baseball at the JUCO level as a sophomore. I was just offered a “guaranteed spring roster spot” for a Division 1 in the American Conference because they don’t have any scholarship money left. If they do that can they still cut me from the team in the fall??

  • David says:

    My son plays his freshman year at a juco and hurts his elbow first week in April of 2013. He has ucl (Tommy John) surgery in September of 2013. He is going to be redshirted this year at this same Juco and will not be ready until next September or later. Is there any difference in a medical redshirt and a normal redshirt year as far as eligibility in this particular case if he transfers to a D1 school this next fall and is not quit healed or ready. Can he then get a regular redshirt year which would allow him 6 years to play 4. I do know that the ncaa has to approve all these situations and they have granted the 6th year if the player takes a regular redshirt first and then gets hurt later on and makes a request for the medical redshirt then.

    • Rick Allen says:

      David,

      The NCAA rarely grants an extension of the five-year clock if one of the two seasons missed is just for a regular redshirt year. Those waivers are granted when an athlete has missed not just one, but more than one, season of competition due to injury or other circumstance beyond the control of the student-athlete.

      Rick

  • Ryan says:

    Hi Rick,

    My son is currently on a division 1 junior college baseball team. He is on a full scholarship and they have just begun their season however he is injured and cannot play this spring. He missed a game due to illness and he did not communicate to his coaches that he wouldn’t be able to make it. His roommate was suppose to inform the coach of his sickness but did not. They are now kicking him off the team because of an argument that took place after he missed the game. They are asking him to go sign his release and they are pulling his housing and meals but still paying for his classes.

    Is this legally acceptable for them to take away housing and meals? Also I would assume the reason for dismissing him is misconduct or breaking a team rule however all we are really concerned with right now is finishing out the semester with housing and meals otherwise he will have no place to live.

    Thank you in advance,
    Ryan

    • Rick Allen says:

      Ryan,

      My primary expertise is with NCAA rules, so I’m not sure if the NJCAA rules provide any type of appeal, although it more likely is a school issue rather than an NJCAA issue. I suggest talking to the Dean of Students at the college to see what recourse he has.

      Rick

  • Chuck says:

    Can some DII schools offer in-state tuition for out of state baseball players, but , only have it count a very small amount against their Scholarships? Is it possible the offer of in-state tuition doesn’t even count as a scholarship?

    Thanks in advance

    Chuck

    • Rick Allen says:

      Chuck,

      If an offer of in-state tuition is awarded by the athletic department, it’s not possible for it to not count as a scholarship. An offer of in-state tuition for an out-of-state player should count as an athletic scholarship, unless the school has a reciprocal agreement, such as one with a neighboring state, that would apply to all students, not just athletes.

      Rick

  • Nydia says:

    Hello, thanks in advance
    1. Can a pitcher in a div 1 college be redshirted although the season has started?
    2. If a div 1 player has attended college for 2 years what colleges can he transfer to without sitting out a year?

    • Rick Allen says:

      Nydia,

      1. The term redshirt simply means that an athlete has not appeared in a game, even for just one pitch to get the game-ending double play. So, yes, the pitcher can be redshirted if he doesn’t appear in a game this season.

      2. The Div. I player will have the chance to be immediately eligible next year at an NCAA Div. II, III, or an NAIA school. It may even be possible at a JUCO, and will also be possible at another Div. I school if the athlete is not on scholarship at the Div. I, or wasn’t recruited to the Div. I school.

      Rick

  • Trudy says:

    Looking for a reference book that contains a list of schools &/or Colleges that play division 1,2 & 3 of all sports. It is a pretty thick book. Do you know the name of this book? If you don’t carry this book, can you make a suggestion of the name of the book & where I can purchase this book?
    Your prompt attention wiould be greatly completed appreciated.
    Thank You,
    Trudy

  • Mike says:

    what happens to a freshman baseball player if his scholarship is not renewed by the university? will he be eligible to play the next year at a D1 or D2 school.

    • Rick Allen says:

      Mike,

      In this situation, the player might be eligible to play next year depending upon various circumstances. You may want to contact me directly for an explanation of those circumstances.

      Rick

  • Doug says:

    My son has only played on his DII jv team his freshman year. Does this count as a year of eligibility? I thought as long as he doesn’t play a varsity game, he will still have 4 years left.

  • Jeff says:

    Rick, my son is finishing his freshman year at a D1 school playing baseball. He is a recruited walk on, made the spring 35 man roster, has suited out each week but has not been in a game yet. He wants to change his major to one that is not offered by his current school and is likely going to transfer. He is not ready to give up ball yet and would like to give it another shot at the school he transfers to.

    If he finishes the season without playing in a game…
    – does that count just like a redshirt?
    – if he transfers, would he still lose a year of eligibility?

    Any thoughts on a situation like this that we should consider?

    • Rick Allen says:

      Jeff,

      If he doesn’t enter a game at all this season, this will be considered a redshirt season for him. If he transfers to another Div. I school, he’ll have to sit out from competition next year because he was recruited to his current program. He could be eligible to play, however, at other levels of college ball assuming he is in good shape academically.

      If you would like to discuss his situation and his options in detail, I’ll be glad to do so. I frequently consult with athletes and/or parents regarding NCAA eligibility and transfer rules. All consultations are completely confidential.

      If a consultation is of interest, contact me directly at rick@informedathlete.com.

      Rick

      • Jeff says:

        Thanks Rick. As the time gets closer, we plan on consulting with you.

        You said “If he transfers to another Div. I school, he’ll have to sit out from competition next year because he was recruited to his current program.” Is that just D1 or does that apply to D2 schools also? And… if I have understood the above posts correctly, he can transfer to a Juco or D3 for sure without having to sit out a year?

        • Rick Allen says:

          Jeff,

          That is just the Div. I rule, and only because you indicated that he was recruited to his current school. He’ll have the opportunity to be immediately eligible next year at a Div. II program, and can quite likely be eligible next year at a JUCO or Div. III school as long as he meets the academic requirements for transfer.

          Rick

          • Jeff says:

            Thanks again Rick. I believe he is considered ‘recruited’ as they did call him several times and sent him emails. He did not take an official visit… only a couple of unofficials. Will go into much more detail when we do the consultation.

  • D. says:

    Rick, If a major league baseball team becomes plagued with, say, pitching injuries, they can call kids up from the minors. Is there an NCAA option for D1 schools who are so plagued to bring new players aboard in midseason?

  • D. says:

    Thanks, Rick. Do redshirt players count as part of the 35 player roster?

    • Rick Allen says:

      D,

      Any student-athlete not on the 35-man roster would classify as a redshirt athlete. In addition, players who are part of the 35-man roster can also be redshirted.

      Rick

      • D. says:

        I am trying to figure out why a coach with a limited roster, and unable to add to that roster in midseason, might keep players who are unable to play (due to a preseason injury, for example) on the 35 person roster.

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